{"id":1123,"date":"2007-08-03T02:42:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-03T02:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8888\/wp-a_lawler\/?p=1123"},"modified":"2007-08-03T02:42:00","modified_gmt":"2007-08-03T02:42:00","slug":"discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/","title":{"rendered":"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq&#8217;s National Museum"},"content":{"rendered":"<br \/>\n<h6>The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why he fled his homeland.<\/h6>\n<p>Uruk, located near Basra in Iraq, was one of the world\u2019s first cities, and it is where the first writing system emerged. Babylon, just an hour\u2019s taxi ride from Baghdad, was long the world\u2019s largest and most sophisticated urban center. And the first truly international empire was ruled from the great Assyrian cities of Nineveh and Nimrud, near today\u2019s Mosul in the northern part of the country<\/p>\n<p>The past four years of war and political turmoil have threatened that invaluable heritage\u2014both above and under the ground. Donny George Youkhana, who chaired the Iraqi State Board of Antiquities, has been placed in jeopardy as well. The 56-year-old archaeologist has been vilified as a Baathist sympathizer by American neoconservatives, criticized as pro-West by Sunnis, and viewed with suspicion by Shiites because of his Christian background. \u201cI never knew if I would make it to work,\u201d he says of his daily life in Baghdad since 2003. \u201cOr if I would make it home.\u201d In 2006 he left Iraq, joining the ranks of more than 2 million Iraqis who have fled since 2003. Last November he accepted a teaching position at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. He is one of only a few hundred Iraqi refugees who have been admitted to the United States.<\/p>\n<p>Donny George, as he is known in the States, started his career in archaeology as a storeroom assistant at Iraq\u2019s National Museum, an institution that houses not only most of the artifacts excavated in Iraq during the past 150 years but also a vast store of knowledge on one of the first centers of civilization. Located in the center of Baghdad just off Haifa Street\u2014now one of the most dangerous spots on the planet\u2014the museum was founded in the 1920s by Gertrude Bell, an extraordinary British historian who helped draw Iraq\u2019s borders, choose its first king, and negotiate a peace among Mesopotamia\u2019s many clashing tribes.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past three decades, George spent much of his time working on excavations in the field. Before the war, I accompanied him, along with some foreign archaeologists, to a site deep in the flat desert of southern Mesopotamia, where he was directing a dig at a buried 5,000-year-old Sumerian city. He talked of attending the weddings and funerals of the local tribe in order to win their trust and support in protecting the site. But when we arrived, he slung a rifle over his shoulder. During those hard years of economic sanctions, looters were already a danger.<\/p>\n<p>George\u2019s foreign colleagues judged him among the best and brightest of Iraqi archaeologists. But what made him a virtual celebrity was his role in the aftermath of the April 2003 looting of the museum. U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld dismissed the melee with the memorable phrase \u201cStuff happens.\u201d While other antiquity officials avoided the media, George welcomed television cameras and print reporters to the museum grounds. His criticism of the U.S. failure to intervene helped turn the shocking event into a symbol of an invasion gone awry, and he traveled the world seeking financial and moral support for his battered institution. Although it turned out that most of the museum\u2019s priceless artifacts were safe, thousands of pieces are still missing\u2014a significant loss for any museum\u2014and the search for them continues. Over time, George\u2019s diplomacy won the trust of the Americans in the Green Zone and also of the emerging Iraqi authorities: In 2004, he was put in charge of the Iraq Museum as well as the country\u2019s regional museums.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, the political tide in the capital began to turn. In 2006, a new Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities, staffed largely by members of the party led by fundamentalist Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, was set up to oversee the organization. George says the combination of professional frustration and a threat to his son\u2019s life made him take his family first to Syria, then to America. \u201cI never wanted to leave the board\u2014that was my life,\u201d he told me as we sat in the living room of his family\u2019s modest new home, just a few miles from the Stony Brook campus, where he is teaching Mesopotamian history and archaeology. On the mantel, lit by small tea candles, stood an image of Jesus and Mary.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>With regard to the care of antiquities, how do you compare the Saddam era with the way things are today?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Saddam wanted projects to bolster his image, to show that he was a patron of history and antiquities, as were the ancient leaders of Iraq. Now, with the interference of new people who are illiterate about cultural heritage, everything is much more problematic.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>Did you ever meet Saddam?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>One time, when I was field director at Babylon. He arrived by car on September 21, 1987, stayed for two hours, and left by helicopter. We walked through the museum there, and he noticed an ancient inscription by King Nebuchadnezzar translated into Arabic and En glish. It mentioned that the king had been sent by the gods to serve and to lead the black-headed people. For some reason, Saddam told me the translation must be changed. I said, \u201cNo, this is a scientific translation, and we can\u2019t change it.\u201d He didn\u2019t say anything, but later a bodyguard grabbed me by the arm and asked how I could say no to the leader. Then he said, \u201cDon\u2019t worry, you are safe.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>The bricks in the Babylon reconstruction are stamped with Saddam\u2019s name. Whose idea was that?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>This was his order, that we commemorate the reconstruction the same way that it was done in ancient Iraq, by some device such as stone monuments. The next day the written order came, and we put together a committee that decided that we stamp each brick with his name, and he approved that.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>Did Saddam ever visit the Iraq Museum?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Only once, before he was president. He never came after that. That says to me he was not really interested in history and archaeology.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>Did the Saddam regime interfere with your work?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>We felt we had a good measure of independence as a scientific institution. There was never any interference when I was excavating or writing reports. But my contacts with foreigners were closely monitored. The one time it really hurt was when they formed a special team in 2003, before the invasion, to store safely the museum artifacts. I knew everything in the museum and had worked to store everything before the Gulf War in 1991. I think they were afraid, since I knew foreigners and was a Christian, that I would reveal the secret place where the material was stored. That really hurt.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>How did you react after the museum had been looted?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I was angry. I knew it could have been prevented; I knew American forces were beside the museum and didn\u2019t do anything. It was a very, very big mistake that could have been prevented. Like most Iraqis, I thought the arrival of the Americans was very welcome, but when you work as an archaeologist for 30 years, love the field, and know each piece, and then you see all the destruction and looting\u2014this was very hard. I can\u2019t support people who did not protect the museum. And I can\u2019t blame the soldiers\u2014they didn\u2019t have orders.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>What is the impact on Iraq as scientists and professionals like you leave?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>I have seen hundreds like me leave. A good number, if they could not travel abroad, work in the north, in Kurdistan. But the result is a complete drain of good minds from Iraq. In 2003, there were big hopes people would come back and work.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>How did the new Iraqi government handle antiquities?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>In 2004, I was made director of museums, and from the start they started sending people loyal to al-Sadr\u2019s party to monitor and control everything in our institution. They interfered in every single thing and changed things without our knowledge. They encouraged the staff of the department to go directly to the ministry, rather than through us. They removed people not connected to the party and put people in who were not qualified. It is worse than under Saddam.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>How is the new minister, who was appointed in 2006?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s a dentist, and his wife\u2014who is a member of the Parliament\u2014is a relative of al-Sadr. I knew he knew nothing about antiquities, so I went to see him and explain how we work. After about 10 or 15 minutes, I realized there was a complete wall between him and me. He seemed to be listening but not following. I felt helpless. Afterward, he continued the same policy as his predecessor. He appointed one person without experience in manuscripts to be in charge of manuscripts. And the director of manuscripts was moved to the excavation department. It would be amazing if he even knew where Babylon was\u2014it\u2019s not his field. I was by then chairman of the board, and I had the authority of a deputy minister. But I was given no authority over personnel or budget.<\/p>\n<p>At the end, I found myself coming to work, sitting there, and doing nothing. The last straw was when I was told by the minister\u2019s adviser that I should look after myself. He said the al-Sadr party had given an order that since I was Christian, I should not be allowed to keep my job, that it was very important a Shiite Muslim have the position. I was shocked. I understood that if I stayed, they would fire me, or it would lead to problems or even assassination. That happens. A month or so later\u2014the 30th of July\u2014I applied for retirement. And the minister approved it immediately. Normally, a minister would call to find out the reason a senior official resigned, so it was clear he was waiting for me to quit. A week or so later we left Baghdad.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>What is the status of the museum today? Is it threatened?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>About three or four months before I left, we had a mass kidnapping take place in the street outside the museum. A dozen official cars painted in camouflage drove up, full of personnel who were completely armed, equipped, and wearing uniforms. They took 50 people off the street. Shortly after, the interior minister announced that they had nothing to do with the kidnapping. I immediately called my senior staff and asked one simple question: What can we do if these people come to the museum, accuse us of hiding something in our storerooms, and demand to go in? Can we stop them? We agreed there was no stopping them, so we started immediately securing the museum. We put antiquities in the registration rooms and labs into boxes, took them down into the storeroom, and started welding the iron doors. For a day and a half, we welded all the doors leading to the storerooms and to the museum area. And the last thing we did was to build a wall half a meter thick with bricks and concrete at the entrance. The museum was completely sealed. Now, unfortunately, the Ministry of Tourism and Antiquities wants to reopen the museum just to show the outside world Baghdad is OK and everything is fine. The museum director e-mailed me that she\u2019s under pressure to reopen. Of course it would be ridiculous to do this. [Since this interview, the tourism minister has been forced to resign, along with several other Shiite ministers. The museum remains closed.]<\/p>\n<p><strong>How bad is the looting in southern Iraq?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Last year, al-Sadr\u2019s followers attacked and burned the museum of Nasiriyah and its library. They said to the guards\u2014and I know this is true because I spoke with them\u2014\u201ctell [local inspector] Abdul Amir Hamadan we will do to your antiquities exactly what the Taliban did!\u201d In Najaf, al-Sadr\u2019s party was heard to tell worshippers that looting artifacts is ethical so long as the money goes for guns or building mosques. And we have started to have problems in an area in Basra called Zobeir\u2014the original Basra\u2014which was founded by the caliph Omar in A.D. 638. Our inspector says people are building houses on the site, in practice destroying the first Islamic city that was built outside the Arab peninsula. Historically, Omar is considered the enemy of all Shiites. So is it being destroyed intentionally or just neglected? I don\u2019t know. But I\u2019m worried this is exactly what happened to the Samarra mosque and shrine [destroyed in a sectarian bombing in 2006]. This kind of conflict might also lead to huge destruction of Islamic monuments and archaeology. We have an armed force of 1,400 men to patrol the provinces, and we managed to get some cars from the State Department and about 45 cars from Unesco. We concentrated on Nasiriyah because the looting was so bad there and because there are over 700 archaeological sites in the area. Inspector Abdul Amir [Hamadan] and his team did a very good job, patrolling, arresting looters, and sending looted antiquities to the museum. But rich people on the city council with ties to the Islamic parties are agitating for easy access to antiquities.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>Are archaeological sites in the north around Mosul\u2014such as Nineveh and Nimrud\u2014secure?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>There are 1,600 sites in the Mosul area alone, but the situation is not as bad as it is in the south. The museum is safe; it\u2019s closed and there\u2019s no one there. People in the north and middle part of the country have always been much more educated, more careful with ancient sites, than the people in the south. It\u2019s not their fault. They were not educated and given what they need to live. In the late 1990s, I saw Iraqis starving in the south because of bad policies.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/discovermagazine.com\/2007\/aug\/discover-interview-director-iraqi-national-museum\/article_view?searchterm=andrew%20lawler&amp;b_start:int=0\" target=\"_blank\">Courtesy of Discover website<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why  [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1123","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-discover-magazine"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Discover Interview: Director of Iraq&#039;s National Museum &#8226; Andrew Lawler<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why he fled his homeland. Uruk, located near Basra in Iraq, was one of the world\u2019s first cities,\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq&#039;s National Museum &#8226; Andrew Lawler\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why he fled his homeland. Uruk, located near Basra in Iraq, was one of the world\u2019s first cities,\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Andrew Lawler\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AndrewLawlerAuthor\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:author\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AndrewLawlerAuthor\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2007-08-03T02:42:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"AndrewLawler\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"AndrewLawler\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"12 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"AndrewLawler\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022\"},\"headline\":\"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq&#8217;s National Museum\",\"datePublished\":\"2007-08-03T02:42:00+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":2344,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022\"},\"articleSection\":[\"Discover Magazine\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/\",\"name\":\"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq's National Museum &#8226; Andrew Lawler\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2007-08-03T02:42:00+00:00\",\"description\":\"The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why he fled his homeland. Uruk, located near Basra in Iraq, was one of the world\u2019s first cities,\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\\\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq&#8217;s National Museum\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/\",\"name\":\"Andrew Lawler\",\"description\":\"Andrew Lawler is author of four books\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":[\"Person\",\"Organization\"],\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022\",\"name\":\"AndrewLawler\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/content\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2018\\\/02\\\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/content\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2018\\\/02\\\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/content\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2018\\\/02\\\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg\",\"width\":1920,\"height\":1920,\"caption\":\"AndrewLawler\"},\"logo\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\\\/content\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2018\\\/02\\\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg\"},\"description\":\"Andrew Lawler is author of three books, Under Jerusalem: The Buried History of the World\u2019s Most Contested City, The Secret Token: Myth, Obsession, and the Search for the Lost Colony of Roanoke, a national bestseller, and Why Did the Chicken Cross the World?: The Epic Saga of the Bird that Powers Civilization. As a journalist, he has written more than a thousand newspaper and magazine articles from more than two dozen countries. His byline has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, National Geographic, Smithsonian, and many others. He is contributing writer for Science and contributing editor for Archaeology. Andrew\u2019s work has appeared several times in The Best of Science and Nature Writing.\",\"sameAs\":[\"http:\\\/\\\/www.andrewlawler.com\",\"https:\\\/\\\/www.facebook.com\\\/AndrewLawlerAuthor\",\"https:\\\/\\\/www.linkedin.com\\\/in\\\/andrew-lawler-9b5a064a\\\/\",\"https:\\\/\\\/x.com\\\/LawlerAndrew\",\"https:\\\/\\\/www.youtube.com\\\/channel\\\/UCsliIwdDC_wPYE01Se2zzAw\"]}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq's National Museum &#8226; Andrew Lawler","description":"The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why he fled his homeland. Uruk, located near Basra in Iraq, was one of the world\u2019s first cities,","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq's National Museum &#8226; Andrew Lawler","og_description":"The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why he fled his homeland. Uruk, located near Basra in Iraq, was one of the world\u2019s first cities,","og_url":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/","og_site_name":"Andrew Lawler","article_publisher":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AndrewLawlerAuthor","article_author":"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AndrewLawlerAuthor","article_published_time":"2007-08-03T02:42:00+00:00","author":"AndrewLawler","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"AndrewLawler","Est. reading time":"12 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/"},"author":{"name":"AndrewLawler","@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/#\/schema\/person\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022"},"headline":"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq&#8217;s National Museum","datePublished":"2007-08-03T02:42:00+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/"},"wordCount":2344,"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/#\/schema\/person\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022"},"articleSection":["Discover Magazine"],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/","url":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/","name":"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq's National Museum &#8226; Andrew Lawler","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/#website"},"datePublished":"2007-08-03T02:42:00+00:00","description":"The archaeologist talks about the loss of artifacts and why he fled his homeland. Uruk, located near Basra in Iraq, was one of the world\u2019s first cities,","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/discover-interview-director-of-iraqs-national-museum\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Discover Interview: Director of Iraq&#8217;s National Museum"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/","name":"Andrew Lawler","description":"Andrew Lawler is author of four books","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/#\/schema\/person\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":["Person","Organization"],"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/#\/schema\/person\/cbc9a5140b6f2e4922d45f0726e70022","name":"AndrewLawler","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg","url":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg","width":1920,"height":1920,"caption":"AndrewLawler"},"logo":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/02\/ST-LawlerJacketPic-1x1.jpg"},"description":"Andrew Lawler is author of three books, Under Jerusalem: The Buried History of the World\u2019s Most Contested City, The Secret Token: Myth, Obsession, and the Search for the Lost Colony of Roanoke, a national bestseller, and Why Did the Chicken Cross the World?: The Epic Saga of the Bird that Powers Civilization. As a journalist, he has written more than a thousand newspaper and magazine articles from more than two dozen countries. His byline has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, National Geographic, Smithsonian, and many others. He is contributing writer for Science and contributing editor for Archaeology. Andrew\u2019s work has appeared several times in The Best of Science and Nature Writing.","sameAs":["http:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com","https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/AndrewLawlerAuthor","https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/andrew-lawler-9b5a064a\/","https:\/\/x.com\/LawlerAndrew","https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCsliIwdDC_wPYE01Se2zzAw"]}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1123","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1123"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1123\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1123"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1123"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.andrewlawler.com\/content\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1123"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}